Ah, no worries Fable, I wouldn't take the easy way out on art, I wouldn't get anywhere if I did that. I asked about the shadows, cus I saw most of the shadows in computer artwork, were put pefectly, and wondered if a art program actually does it, or the human user ^^ I have used a rendering type prgram before, like a few years back, when I was in a computer animation class that used a program called 3D Studios Max. It was more a 3D graphics program, but was neat to play around with ^^.