On Sep 24, 2013, BogusRed said:
On Sep 23, 2013, grim-away said:
I've got at least 12 clubs I've found so far on DA that fights against Homoerogenous artwork/pictures. These people report everything they see if it falls into their cracks of "not safe for DA". So it's not only the admins that don't adminster anything, it's the whole damn community that irks me.
WTF? Don't people have anything better to do with their time?! That's really saddening.
----- Apparently not. There are lots of clubs dedicated to thwarting the rest of the members of DA. Though I did take part in the Art Theft (personally it's happened to me and it really made me angry... mostly because it was a chibi...). But after a while I just didn't want to spend my time yelling at kids on DA for posting stuff they shouldn't. Every now and then I'll find something that I know is official artwork and ask them to take it down but lately I don't care to run around fixing DA's problems. I even stopped being a subscriber. I was for a good 6 years...
They said that all they have to do is buy the rights from DA to take YOUR artwork and put it on anything they want and make profit off of YOU.
Do we have confirmation that it says that in the terms of service? That sounds pretty outrageous and I would think that if this were true someone would yell out about this and people would leave.
--- It's actually right in the submission policies and their "Fair Use" agreement. When you hit submit you agree to these terms. People don't even care to read through all of the corporate babble because it is what it is, corporate babble. For the kids on the site, they don't understand what this is because they don't use terms like "we're gonna take your work and sell it to someone else because it's our policy" what they do is they write it all out like a contract. What people need is someone with knowledge about corporate BS to read through that policy so that things make sense. To break it all down, I've retrieved this from DA
Fair Use and Your Submission
"Fair Use" is the notion that some public and private uses of copyrighted works should not require the permission of a copyright owner. These circumstances are very limited, complex to analyze under the law and require the help of expert advice from a lawyer. We recommend you talk to your own lawyer if you want to know more about fair use as it applies to the work you are doing. If it turns out that it isn't fair use, you may be liable for very serious money damages. (and you know why... it's because DA wants the rights to print your work and sell it to third parties, they can't do that if you don't own 100% of the piece you share within their corporate business, they will get sued and in turn will sue you because you agreed to their submission policy, that's my speculation on their policy and could be my opinion entirely, but it is an assumption I've made while talking to vendors).
This is the link to the Policy that people have to click to agree to when they submit all artwork on DA. It's a whole lot of "We" "we as a part of blahblahblah". It's a legal binding letter of agreement. Kids will not read this. Nor will people who just want to put their artwork somewhere because it doesn't make any sense to them.
Not that any of this stops people from posting screenshots, official artwork, game sprites ripped from games, etc...
DA is only a leader in traffic. You guys are the leaders in treating your community with respect. I wouldn't trade it for the world
Aw
Thanks grim-away!
You're very welcome :)
DA is no longer a community leader. They are a corporate business. They are there to take your money.
True dat. I would think though that it would be possible to make a profitable business without alienating your customers. I guess that's not the path DA wants to take.
---I'm feeling as though it isn't. I've just steered clear of that website since all it is is a business to me. I can't stress enough that I don't want to deal with a corporate businesses (at least not right now). I'd rather be in a close knit community with fellows who respect each other.
I'm curious. What is it that you liked or didn't like about anipan? I remember when that first came out I thought it was pretty neat. They have a few good ideas over there.
LOL well... It's been a year and I feel as though the place is just a big dumping ground for artwork. Nothing is upgraded and in order to fix an image I've shared I have to delete that image and resubmit. I'm not the only one with this problem. There's also an issue right now with trying to submit any artwork. The page will just stop loading and I've got to refresh (this problem has been submitted to the beta testing comment section which is like a weird chat based check off list atm), click on my gallery and then click on the little pencil to fix the name and enter in information. The site is a little wonky if not glitchy at times, but I don't feel as though it's a community. The only option on the site so far is to submit. There are no forums. Just beta testing comment section. There's no real way to get in touch with other members. It would be great if I could do more with my anipan experience. It's no Manga Bullet (a site I miss and wish was still up while Anipan is still in beta). There hasn't been an update with the site in a year and to those who put money into the site 2-3 years ago any kind of notice to it's beta members would be great notice. At least let us know it's still alive and well, ya know? Apparently there was going to be some updates September 2013. I'm still waiting on what these updates are. I know it's a lot of hard work and I know that they have full time jobs elsewhere, as well as real lives, so there's not a lot of time to put into this website but a little notice (there is no news section there) would be nice. Otherwise it's a nice little hole in the wall for back ups when I'm sharing my artwork and my computer fries on me.