Comment 85234

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Jul 3, 2011, 5:40:05 AM UTC
I'm not sure you understand what screen tones are fully then. You know how they are dots and stuff in a pattern? If you put another tone behind it which has a different pattern of dots it gives what's called a moire effect. It's not seeing one layer under another If you put two exact screen tones over each other it'll look like only one tone. If you stagger the two slightly you'll get an offset version of the tone.

What you need to do is get two tones with similar dot paterns and line them up so the two are seamless. I haven't figured it out yet but Mangastudio allowes you to rotate not only the image of the tone, but the direction of the dots of the tone and how separated they are. This allows you to match the base tone to another above it without the hypnotic or streaky look of the moire effect. Wikipedia may explain it better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern

Basically, Photoshop uses even colour. Cause of this it can be opaque or as transparent as you want. Screen tone is pure black dispite what the screen shows you. Your monitor can't handle the resolution the screen tone is at till you zoom it. That's why it makes it seem grey looking instead. It's not that they are transparent- they've got holes in the tone that allow tones behind it to show through. This is more noticeable if you print screen tone images. I find that it's easiest to layer grey with a tone cause you're more likely to match stuff up.

Just... be careful. If you're using just Manga Studio for things, it doesn't mess up too badly, but Mangastudio is a very precise program and it doesn't like grey scale. Don't put it back into MS unless you know what you're doing cause image size and DPI are SO important to that program. I've learnt the hard way with the program with printing my comics. If it gets stretched or shrunk at any point, the tone could do anything, so just keep an eye on it Smile Good luck with the comic! If you want to see any of mine, they're all here http://www.paperdemon.com/comics/artist/52.html Don't use me as a good example of screentoning though cause I'm bad at it XD

Comment ID 85234

[Art] Stealing His Mokomoko
Jul 5, 2011, 4:24:04 PM UTC on [Art] Stealing His Mokomoko
Uhhh...can't you tell my Master’s degree wasn't in art? XD Lol!

Yes, I do notice when I zoom in the tone changes into "dots". So I understood that part. I will have to find how to rotate the dots, since I already know how to rotate the tone. Usually the different tones that I use are not even close to the same pattern.

Well, I'm glad I'm not printing it. Big Smile That sounds like a royal pain. XD

Thanks so much for the info! I will most likely come back and reference this for future pieces and my comic. Smile There is still many things in MS that have yet to be discovered!

Thank you! Big Smile

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  • Jul 7, 2011, 10:22:55 PM UTC
    It's in the pop up menu where you change the angle of the tone. You can change the angle the tone makes as well as the angle of the tone, and how wide appart the lines of tone are. It's alot to learn, but it's the only way of layering the tones without the moire effect. Goodness knows how they did it traditionally without getting a headache. Manga studio cuts out SO much time for toning!